From linux-return-136519-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Wed Jan 9 22:03:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g09L3hu22651 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:03:43 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17418 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:03:43 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12224 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:03:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 29873 invoked by uid 30); 9 Jan 2002 21:03:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 29864 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 21:03:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:03:09 +0100 From: Peter Surda To: linux@linux.sk, linux@linux.cz Subject: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux Message-ID: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f61P+fpdnY2FZS1u" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-Operating-System: Linux shurdeek 2.4.9-13 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 5.8 (2001 May 31, compiled Aug 7 2001 10:32:34) X-MIME2LATIN2: 1 MIME parts converted to iso-8859-2 Status: RO Content-Length: 5902 Lines: 149 --f61P+fpdnY2FZS1u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cauko ludia! Ako som slubil, prichadza %subj%. Hned na zaciatok musim povedat, ze moje poziadavky su mozno trocha nestandartne, tak ich hned zosumarizujem: - kvalitne audio - netrhane video - podpora XVideo extensions a fullscreen - zrat malo CPU - podpora kapitol - podpora titulkov a roznych audiostop - seekovanie - stabilita - plne a jednoducho ovladatelne mysou, comp pouzivam LEN na multimedia a klavesnicu mam skrytu, obe su riadiove ale je jednoduchsie mat v polici poruke malu mysku ako velku klavesnicu Nehodnotim: ovladanie klavesnicou, podporu inych video vystupov, menu (ale potvrdzujem ze ogle to ozaj ako jediny vie). Pokial viem CSS vedia vsetky. Rovnako nehodnotim podporu platforiem, len linux (vlc napr. zvlada aj windows, macos a beos), ani podporu inych veci ako DVD (ogle vie len DVD, ostatne zvladaju mpegy, xine aj avicka (myslim ze aj asf), mplayer skoro vsetko co existuje). Hardver je Duron 650, Pioneer 104S (alebo tak nejak) DVDromka, karta ATI AIW 128 AGPx2. RH 7.1, XF86 CVS z decembra, drajver ati.2 z gatosu s tvout pecom. Pozeram to na televizore, takze kvalitu deinterlacingu posudit neviem. XVideo funkcia na kreslenie obrazkov setri CPU tym, ze vie robit transfery cez DMA (a programoval som to ja s jednym DRI-developerom :-)) Pretoze som lenivy, testoval som len jedno DVDcko, prvu cast "Slayers Next". Ma 2 audiostopy (japonsku a anglicku) a 2jo tituliek (cinske a anglicke). Hej je to hongkongske "pololegalne" dvdcko :-). Kandidati: xine (zhruba z oktobra), vlc (cvs spred asi 3 tyzdnov), mplayer (dnesne cvs), ogle (0.8.2 z decembra). V mplayeri sa mi nepodarilo aktivovat nijaky skin, asi som krepy alebo co, takze mozno nehodnotim jeho plny rozsah funkcii. Budem adresovat tieto body postupne, a potom zhodnotenie kazdeho plejeru. Kvalitne audio: Musim sa priznat, nemam surround (a testovane dvdcko je aj tak len stereo), resp. karta (SB-live! player) to vie ale nemam na to zosilnovac a repraky. Audio zvladaju vsetky plejere viacmenej v pohode, niektore (nechcem hadat tak zostanem pri "niektore") zvladaju sb-live-ovsky ac3-passthough. Najvacsi problem je vlc, pretoze ma nekvalitny ac3 dekoder, pisti (mpeg2 audio ide v pohode), ale pracuje sa na tom. A este daco: ogle audio obcas preskakuje, vlc obcas ked je dlhsi cas pauznuty, reaguje na rozbiehanie dvdcka docasnou zmenou rychlosti audia, co trocha divne znie. Netrhane video: jedine v ogle vyzera video nejak divne trhane, ostante to zvladaju v pohode. XVideo: Zvladaju vsetky (vidim z logov Xservra), aj fullscreen. CPU: Zatazenie sposobene procesom plejeru v %. X-y zeru kvoli DMA zanedbatelne, pod 1%. priemer max xine: 29 31 ogle: 38 41 mplayer: 29 31 vlc: 11 14 priemer-om nemyslim je aritmeticky priemer, ale cislo, ktore "top" najcastejsie ukazoval. Meral som to na tej istej scene, trvajucej asi 2 minuty, bez titulkov (tie na to maju aj tak zanedbatelny vplyv) Podpora kapitol: Tym myslim, ze sa da presuvat medzi kapitolami pocas prehravania. ogle a vlc to vedia. mplayer nie (ak to mplayer vie tak som to prehliadol, pokial viem da sa to vybrat z komandlajny ale pocas plejbeku uz ne). xine vie len skakat medzi vobmi, ako sa pracuje s kapitolami som nezistil. Podpora titulkov a roznych audiostop: Podobne ako pri kapitolach. Mplayer vie len z komandlajny, ostatne v pohode. Vlc navyse nezobrazuje titulky len 2farebne, ale prisposobi ich farbu pozadiu, aby sa dali lepsie citat. Bohuzial obcas to vyzera divne :-) Seekovanie: Ogle nezvlada (nenasiel som ako), ostatne v pohode. Tym myslim napr. "skoc o 15 sekund dopredu/dozadu" a tak. Stabilita: Mplayer je jednoznacne najstabilnejsi. Xine pada relativne casto, vlc trocha menej. Ogle som zacal pouzivat len dnes, a to je na test stability nedostatocna doba. Mys: V mplayeri 0 bodov. Neviem, ci je to len neexistenciou skinu alebo niecim inym. Ogle akonahle prepnem do fullscreen som v prdeli, musim ctrl-f. xine ma vyskakovaci interfejs, ktory moze ukazat nad videom. Vyzera milo, ale nedaju sa z neho menit titulky ani audio, na to treba klavesnicu (nevylucujem, ze som nieco prehliadol). Do vlc som portol podla mna najdolezitejsiu ficuru aviplay-u, a sice ze klik lavym tlacitkom robi pause/unpause, casto potrebujem strasne rychlo pauznut a ked sa na to mam hrabat menu alebo interfejsom tak je to komplikovane (iste, klavesnicou je to tiez jednoduche, ale ked je v polici 2 metre odo mna a musim vstavat z kresla tak to jednoduche nie je). Okrem toho som do vlc naprogramoval aj seekovanie wheelom. Na zlozitejsie veci pravy klik (to som uz ja neprogramoval :-)) odhali menu v gtk, kde sa da nastavit skoro vsetko dolezite, napr. skok na inu kapitolu, titulky alebo audio. Summary: Ked chcete vsetko ovladat mysou, vlc. Ked chcete stabilitu a klavesnicu, mplayer. Ked sa chcete citit ako vo windowse (dobre to vyzera, kvalitne audio/video, a furt nieco pada), xine. Ked menu, ogle. Ked ine, tak si trhnite :-) Tento text je (C) Peter Surda 2002, GNU FDPL. Happy DVD watching! S pozdravom, Peter Surda (Shurdeek) , ICQ 10236103, +436505122023 -- It's not a bug, it's tradition! --f61P+fpdnY2FZS1u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PLANzogxsPZwLzcRAhKVAJ93f5qPc+RY2CfoVLAI11kG27a07gCgjOhu iubTem7osp1C1W78tBJT1qQ= =6ukP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f61P+fpdnY2FZS1u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Musi vase odpoved jit do konference nebo staci jen autorovi? --f61P+fpdnY2FZS1u-- From linux-return-136521-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Wed Jan 9 22:14:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g09LEbu22954 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:14:37 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17503 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:14:37 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA13160 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:14:36 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 1357 invoked by uid 30); 9 Jan 2002 21:14:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 1348 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 21:14:24 -0000 Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux From: Jindrich Sarson To: linux@linux.cz In-Reply-To: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> References: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 09 Jan 2002 22:13:18 +0100 Message-Id: <1010610798.13077.8.camel@vindra.sk.upol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME2LATIN2: 1 MIME parts converted to iso-8859-2 Status: RO Content-Length: 736 Lines: 20 Dobry den, > > Mys: V mplayeri 0 bodov. Neviem, ci je to len neexistenciou skinu alebo niecim > inym. Ogle akonahle prepnem do fullscreen som v prdeli, musim ctrl-f. xine ma S instalaci skinu jsem se v mplayeru take trapil. Pak jsem vylaboroval, ze je treba: 1. ./configure --enable-gui 2. skiny rozbalit do /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin - zde nakopirovat prislusny adresar se skinem. Doufam, ze to je vse, delal jsem to tak pred 3 mesici. Pak funguje velice prijemne ovladani mysi, nektere skiny jsou fakt cool. Jindra --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Dopis si pred odeslanim jeste jednou prectete From linux-return-136531-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Wed Jan 9 23:12:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g09MCBu24786 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:12:11 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18182 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:12:11 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18814 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:12:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 21333 invoked by uid 30); 9 Jan 2002 22:12:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 21324 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 22:12:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:11:37 +0100 From: Peter Surda To: linux@linux.cz, linux@linux.sk Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux Message-ID: <20020109231137.I29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> References: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> <1010610798.13077.8.camel@vindra.sk.upol.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1010610798.13077.8.camel@vindra.sk.upol.cz>; from jsa@sarson.cz on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:13:18PM +0100 X-Operating-System: Linux shurdeek 2.4.9-13 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 5.8 (2001 May 31, compiled Aug 7 2001 10:32:34) X-MIME2LATIN2: 1 MIME parts converted to iso-8859-2 Status: RO Content-Length: 1670 Lines: 52 --r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:13:18PM +0100, Jindrich Sarson wrote: > S instalaci skinu jsem se v mplayeru take trapil. Pak jsem vylaboroval, > ze je treba: > 1. ./configure --enable-gui > 2. skiny rozbalit do /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin - zde nakopirovat > prislusny adresar se skinem. No este treba spustit s parametrom -gui atd atd atd ale nakoniec to ide aj mne. > Doufam, ze to je vse, delal jsem to tak pred 3 mesici. Pak funguje > velice prijemne ovladani mysi, nektere skiny jsou fakt cool. Takze update: Jo, tym skinom sa dost zlepsi, ale furt to ma chyby: - skin musi priamo podporovat plejovanie dvdciek a s tym spojene funkcie - neda sa prepinat titulky/audio (resp. neviem ako) - 1click-pause(TM) nejde :-) Ale ozaj, je to o dost lepsie. > Jindra Bye, Peter Surda (Shurdeek) , ICQ 10236103, +436505122023 -- There's no place like ~ --r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PMAZzogxsPZwLzcRAvqAAJ4ut2YwgIcHh7YJUBvNRtYbuO4v8QCgnJx/ BNKtF7o5UnoYeHTe+H45+44= =qbr1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Prectete si Linux Documentation Project: http://www.linux.cz/linuxdoc/ --r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ-- From linux-return-136632-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Thu Jan 10 17:23:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0AGNIu30907 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:23:18 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08624 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:23:18 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09221 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:23:17 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 16302 invoked by uid 30); 10 Jan 2002 16:23:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 16293 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 16:23:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:23:09 +0100 From: David Jez To: linux@linux.cz Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux Message-ID: <20020110172309.B41463@stud.fee.vutbr.cz> References: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> <1010610798.13077.8.camel@vindra.sk.upol.cz> <20020109231137.I29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020109231137.I29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at>; from shurdeek@panorama.sth.ac.at on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:11:37PM +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME2LATIN2: 1 MIME parts converted to iso-8859-2 Status: RO Content-Length: 867 Lines: 20 On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:11:37PM +0100, Peter Surda wrote: > > S instalaci skinu jsem se v mplayeru take trapil. Pak jsem vylaboroval, > > ze je treba: > > 1. ./configure --enable-gui > > 2. skiny rozbalit do /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin - zde nakopirovat > > prislusny adresar se skinem. > No este treba spustit s parametrom -gui atd atd atd ale nakoniec to ide aj > mne. Nebo tu volbu povolit v configu. -- ------------------------------------------------------- David "Dave" Jez Brno, CZ, Europe E-mail: dave.jez@seznam.cz PGP key: finger xjezda00@fest.stud.fee.vutbr.cz ---------=[ ~EOF ]=------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Hledejte pomoci Google: http://google.com/linux From linux-return-136522-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Wed Jan 9 22:24:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g09LOeu23274 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:24:40 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17661 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:24:40 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA13983 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:24:40 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 3568 invoked by uid 30); 9 Jan 2002 21:24:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 3556 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 21:24:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:23:48 +0100 From: Peter Surda To: linux@linux.cz, linux@linux.sk Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux Message-ID: <20020109222348.G29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> References: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/i8j2F0k9BYX4qLc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at>; from shurdeek@panorama.sth.ac.at on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:03:09PM +0100 X-Operating-System: Linux shurdeek 2.4.9-13 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 5.8 (2001 May 31, compiled Aug 7 2001 10:32:34) X-MIME2LATIN2: 1 MIME parts converted to iso-8859-2 Status: RO Content-Length: 1518 Lines: 46 --/i8j2F0k9BYX4qLc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Ako som slubil, prichadza %subj%. A este ma napadlo ze kolko pamate to zere (RSS v top): xine: 27M vlc: 11M ogle: 18M mplayer: 6.6M -> to preto lebo neni v C++ (co je podla mna ok) a ma len 1 thread (co je podla mna na plejer <>vina lebo plytva CPU casom, to ze to casto vyzera lepsie ako multithreaded je sposobene blbym schedulerom + synchronizaciou, musime pockat kym velki guruovia kernelaci s tym nieco spravia. Videl som ale vcera, ze je nova implementacia scheduleru a so Zdenkom chceme naprogramovat jednotny interfejs umoznujuci synchronizaciu podla videokarty, tak sa mas na co tesit mplayer, muahahahahaha ) Bye, Peter Surda (Shurdeek) , ICQ 10236103, +436505122023 -- 0 and 1. Now what could be so hard about that? --/i8j2F0k9BYX4qLc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PLTkzogxsPZwLzcRAsA1AJ4tyFsbk1B4TeleGJCnG1boid22tACfUn6O hdQpmcXcIJjXoUI04nrqiQw= =ienl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/i8j2F0k9BYX4qLc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Navrhy na dalsi tipy piste na linux-tips@linux.cz --/i8j2F0k9BYX4qLc-- From linux-return-136603-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Thu Jan 10 14:46:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0ADjfu25393 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:45:41 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04264 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:45:41 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14078 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:45:41 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 17645 invoked by uid 30); 10 Jan 2002 13:43:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 17474 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 13:43:33 -0000 X-Authentication-Warning: morticia.kit.vslib.cz: news set sender to cz-comp-linux@csnews.vslib.cz using -f X-Newsgroups: cz.comp.linux From: Zdenek Kabelac Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux To: linux@linux.cz Message-ID: <3C3D8B9D.15CAD4D1@i.am> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:39:57 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 References: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> <20020109222348.G29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: unknown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO Content-Length: 1988 Lines: 50 Peter Surda wrote: > > > Ako som slubil, prichadza %subj%. > A este ma napadlo ze kolko pamate to zere (RSS v top): > xine: 27M > vlc: 11M > ogle: 18M > mplayer: 6.6M -> to preto lebo neni v C++ (co je podla mna ok) a ma len 1 no C++ sice neco sosne ale ne zase tak moc - spise je to proto, ze nepouzivas GUI Kdyz si to rozjedes skinovani tak uz to bude o necem jinem - navic zalezi jak ruzne softy drzi v pameti ruzne indexy a jak moc dopredu bufferuji. > thread (co je podla mna na plejer <>vina lebo plytva CPU casom, to ze to casto > vyzera lepsie ako multithreaded je sposobene blbym schedulerom + > synchronizaciou, musime pockat kym velki guruovia kernelaci s tym nieco no Intelovska architektura ma nevyhodu, ze pokud dva procesory pracuji hodne s pameti tak je to vice na skodu nez k uzitky a je potreba si s tim trochu vyhrat - ale aviplay jerkuje mene nez mplayer. > spravia. Videl som ale vcera, ze je nova implementacia scheduleru a so Zdenkom > chceme naprogramovat jednotny interfejs umoznujuci synchronizaciu podla > videokarty, tak sa mas na co tesit mplayer, muahahahahaha ) no vetsina karet umi prepinat video pod VBI sama o sobe, ci-li neni az tak nezbytne nutne aby thread/task cekal na read-u v nejakem device - ale bez nejakych uprav v Xsech si zatim moc neumim predstavit, jak by se to dalo resit eleganteneji. Rozhodne mplayer ten /dev/vsync device by zatim moc nevyuzil (no vyuzil ale musel by decomprimovat jen s takovou kvalitou ze se to vzdy stihne za 1 frame - coz je ponekud netrivialne - ostatne -autoq v mplayer ma viditelne problemy i bez toho - zkousim neco noveho dat i do aviplayeru aby mohla bezet autokvalita i s velmi nizkym poctem bufferu (snad i s 1) ale je to nejak moc hard az si skoro rikam, ze jsem se do toho nemel vubec poustet... kabi --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Prectete si obcas znovu Meta-FAQ From linux-return-136534-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Thu Jan 10 00:39:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g09Ncuu27502 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:38:56 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18657 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:38:56 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA23617 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:38:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 1157 invoked by uid 30); 9 Jan 2002 23:38:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 1137 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2002 23:38:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:38:43 +0100 (CET) From: Stepan Roh To: Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux In-Reply-To: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME2LATIN2: 1 MIME parts converted to iso-8859-2 Status: RO Content-Length: 800 Lines: 22 On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Peter Surda wrote: > Podpora titulkov a roznych audiostop: > Podobne ako pri kapitolach. Mplayer vie len z komandlajny, ostatne v pohode. > Vlc navyse nezobrazuje titulky len 2farebne, ale prisposobi ich farbu pozadiu, > aby sa dali lepsie citat. Bohuzial obcas to vyzera divne :-) Vlc ma natvrdo nastavenou paletu titulku. Viz src/video_output/vout_subpictures.c. Vypada to dost divne, hlavne kdyz mate DVD, kde jsou barvy prehozeny (tj. barva 0 se pouzije pro text), pak vidite obraz skrz text titulku a zbytek je bily :-) S pozdravem, Stepan Roh --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Pred odeslanim mailu zkontrolujte, jestli Subject odpovida tematu From linux-return-136613-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Thu Jan 10 15:26:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0AEQDu26766 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:26:13 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05418 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:26:13 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20882 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:26:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 7761 invoked by uid 30); 10 Jan 2002 14:25:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 7752 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 14:25:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:59 -0500 From: BzF To: linux@linux.cz Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux Message-Id: <20020110152359.1087ddb1.bzf@centrum.cz> In-Reply-To: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> References: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO Content-Length: 890 Lines: 21 Dne Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:03:09 +0100 Peter Surda napsal/a: > Cauko ludia! Taky, taky, > > Mys: V mplayeri 0 bodov. Neviem, ci je to len neexistenciou skinu alebo niecim > inym. Ogle akonahle prepnem do fullscreen som v prdeli, musim ctrl-f. xine ma ./configure --enable-gui ... skiny do /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin mplayer --gui pak už krásně jede (prostř. tl. myši =>menu) ale stejně není nad to mít to pomocí dálk. ovládadla třeba od věže či tv (lirc - http://www.lirc.org), pak už tam člověk nemusí mít ani tu myš (obvzvlášť když má jen s ocáskem) a může to ovládat třeba z postele :-) (./configure --enable-gui --enable-lirc) BzF --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Zkontrolujte si DNS: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mj/sleuth/ From linux-return-136629-letty=mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz@linux.cz Thu Jan 10 17:14:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from lvt.phil.muni.cz (IDENT:root@lvt.phil.muni.cz [147.251.96.1]) by mrakoplas.phil.muni.cz (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0AGEMu30579 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:14:22 +0100 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by lvt.phil.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08375 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:14:22 +0100 Received: from odysseus.linux.cz (odysseus.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.205]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07861 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:14:22 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 11430 invoked by uid 30); 10 Jan 2002 16:14:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact linux-help@linux.cz; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux@linux.cz Delivered-To: mailing list linux@linux.cz Received: (qmail 11421 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 16:14:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:14:03 +0100 From: Peter Surda To: linux@linux.cz Subject: Re: HOWTO: porovnanie aktualnych free softwarovych DVD plejerov pre linux Message-ID: <20020110171403.N29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> References: <20020109220309.F29965@shurdeek.cb.ac.at> <20020110152359.1087ddb1.bzf@centrum.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JVu9XMG6uEpKCPDY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020110152359.1087ddb1.bzf@centrum.cz>; from bzf@centrum.cz on Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:23:59PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux shurdeek 2.4.9-13 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 5.8 (2001 May 31, compiled Aug 7 2001 10:32:34) Status: RO Content-Length: 2027 Lines: 56 --JVu9XMG6uEpKCPDY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:23:59PM -0500, BzF wrote: > ./configure --enable-gui > ... > skiny do /usr/local/share/mplayer/Skin > mplayer --gui > pak už krásně jede (prostř. tl. myši =>menu) Mam malu vyhradu: na televizore ma menu male pismo a neviem to precitat. > ale stejně není nad to mít to pomocí dálk. ovládadla třeba od věže či tv > (lirc - http://www.lirc.org), pak už tam člověk nemusí mít ani tu myš > (obvzvlášť když má jen s ocáskem) a může to ovládat třeba z postele :-) > (./configure --enable-gui --enable-lirc) Kedze som sam pouzival dialkove na ovladanie asi rok (irman), viem k tomu tiez povedat: ma to zmysel iba ked je pocitac pouzivany LEN na uzky vyber uloh a s tym dialkovym ich mozes vsetky ovladat. Ja som to riesil tak, ze muziku a videa som mal v databaze, a po natukani cisla na dialkovom to loadlo. Ked chces pouzivat cely komp LEN na DVDcka, tak sa to este da, ale ja mam dvdciek len asi 20 a na druhej strane okolo tisic divxov, a akonahle chcem otvorit novy tak uz hned musim sahat po mysi/klavesnici, takze moja skusenost ma odkazuje na radiovu mysku, s nou mozem tiez ovladat z postele :-). > BzF Bye, Peter Surda (Shurdeek) , ICQ 10236103, +436505122023 -- Reboot America. --JVu9XMG6uEpKCPDY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Pb3LzogxsPZwLzcRAmYpAJ0dY8FBScb97UaVejD7A5xAis1mtgCeOanh LKwc9zY5dUXpKPAmbJH4Suc= =l33b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JVu9XMG6uEpKCPDY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Meta-FAQ (odhlášení, archív, FAQ a další): http://www.linux.cz/mailing-list TIP: Jak na lokalizaci? 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